Minutes for Lutherans Reform! October 23, 2007

The meeting began with opening prayer led by Sally Gausmann.
In attendance were Paul Gausmann, Mark Billows, Tom Shelley, Kathy Lilley, Irv Eshenhour, Phil Kline, John Douglas, Sally Gausmann, and Bob Kitchen

Paul and John reviewed the Lindenhurst meeting – Bob Kitchen, John Douglas, Paddy Rooney and Paul Gausmann represented Lutherans Reform! This meeting was mainly to rally the troops. There is a need to get more lay people informed and involved. We are gearing up for the 2009 assembly. The confessional orthodox witness still very much needed because in the ELCA currently the social gospel trumping the gospel. We can not be sleeping on the job because Lutherans Concerned has a lot of money and is hard at work to promote their agenda. There are some signs of hope – some Bishops did speak up in support of the church process at churchwide assembly. But it is evident that it will take a lot of effort and organizing on our part and contact with the laity in order to make a difference for 2009.

We need synod coordinators to Lutheran CORE. We went over the qualifications and job description for synod coordinator – one pastor/one lay person – we need volunteers

Mark mentioned Larry’s presentation on the authority of scripture to the South York Conference of an example of how we can get more people interested and involved in the process.

We have a mailing list from synod now and would like to run a test run. Once we get our meeting dates for next year we can do this.

Please work on getting names for Nominations for the upcoming elections to churchwide and synod council.

Bob and Phil will represent us at the ELCF meeting at St. Michael Church in Hamburg north of Reading - November 3, 2007

A regional meeting of Lutheran CORE supporters will be held at Christ Lutheran in Dallastown – Nov. 14 – 10:30 – 2:00. Please come if you are able because this will help us to make contacts in Maryland and Virginia, bring a bag lunch.

Kathy gave an update on our WEB site – we lost the domain name – We will ask ELCF if we can use their name as part of our title. We would like to call our new site LR-ELCF.org. Bob will ask about this at the ELCF meeting. We will also connect our e-mails to this domain name. XL is the name of the web hosting.

Kathy passed around a copy of the brochure she is working on. Sally will send Kathy the mission statement to include in the brochure.

As part of our inclusion in ELCF we need by-laws and job description for officers. Tom will report back on this at the next meeting. Please be prepared to elect officers at that meeting.

Our next meeting will be December 11, 2007 1:30 at Saint Paul (Trinity Road) York and will be a working meeting for by-laws and officers. We are asking for a good attendance that day so that we can complete this important work.

Proposed Schedule for early 2008
January 22 – 1:30 Saint Paul
February 26 – 7:00 p.m. Messiah Lebanon – tentatively
March 25 – 7:00 p.m. Saint Paul
April 22 – 1:30 Messiah Lebanon

Please get the word out to lay people who would like to be a part of our group we are having evening meetings next year to accommodate the schedules of lay people and we need more to join the efforts.

Respectfully Submitted,

Sally Gausmann, scribe

Hi All, Tom Shelley, asked for a summary of the Lutheran CORE meeting that occurred in Illinois last Friday, I am sure the folks at CORE can give you a much better one than I can but I can give a few impressions, others in attendance might want to add details and thoughts of their own.
First of all the attendance was great, around 250 showed up from every region in the country, which is quite excellent considering that many traveled at their own expense for this 6 hour meeting. The speakers were both inspirational and realistic (not that the two have too be mutually exclusive certainly), both diagnosing the problem of the ELCA’s continuing drift towards mainline Protestantism while hopeful that the confessional movement within the ELCA can more actively engage and counter this trend. There was a clear call to not give up the ship, but also a recognition that the revisionist side has money and resources and much support among many of the Bishops. There was some concern that in their opposition to revisionism the Confessionalist side not become too uncharitable in dealing with the other side, who were referred to by Rev. Erma Wolff as “our worthy opponents.”
It was noted that there needs to be much more concern for electing members to Synod Council and the next Church-wide Assembly, and to having a confessional presence in each synod, conference, and congregation. This will necessitate much more organization among the confessional groups and their expansion into dormant and or hostile areas.
Networking was one part of the event, during lunch we met with other confessional folks in our region including folks form ELCF, and from Maryland, we hope to hold a regional meeting as a result of making these contacts.
Upon Leaving Lindenhurst I felt very thankfully that we were well represented among those in attendance and thank John Douglas, Bob Kitchen, and Paddy Rooney for being there from Lutherans Reform! I believe that as we get more organized and get the word out about the challenges facing the ELCA that we will encounter considerable opposition but also find considerable support as we have recently from new folks who have come aboard. I am not personally convinced that the ELCA has much of a future or that it can be changed around but I am willing for now to put up the good fight and promote the reform of the ELCA. In the course of networking with others, and working to create a strong bond between congregations which think confessionaly it is inevitable that a church within a church will be created to some extent. Whether or not this movement will stay in the ELCA in part or in whole is I think still an open question. The call of Lindenhurst was clearly to persevere even in the midst of suffering and a very good case was made for that. I am not convinced the mission of The Church (the one holy catholic and Apostolic Church) will be promoted by endless internal battles in this church (The ELCA), but Lindenhurst certainly gave momentum for rallying the troops together for the long haul. Blessings, Paul Gausmann

The Lindenhurst Revival

What a blessing it was to attend the Lutheran CORE hosted meeting of confessional Lutherans that was held today in Lindenhurst, Illinois. Around 250 pastors and laity from all the regions of the ELCA including numerous synods attended this inspiring and formulative event. Four members of Lutherans Reform were in attendance; John Douglas, Bob Kitchen, Paddy Rooney and myself-Paul Gausmann. Excellent presentations were made by Bishop Paull Spring, Dr. Jim Nestingen and Dr. Robert Benne, and much was done to network those in attendance and to promote and foster efforts that will enhance the confessional witness in the ELCA. One could not leave form the event without feeling uplifted and hopeful. Look for my new blog http://lindenhurstincubator.blogspot.com/ that will be entitled Lindenhust Incubator to share thoughts from the event that will promote greater effectiveness among the confessional folks.

Minutes of Lutherans Reform!

Lutherans Reform! met on August 28, 2007 at 1:30 p.m. at Saint Paul Lutheran Church 250 Trinity Road York

Opening devotions were led by Sally Gausmann
We had introductions of those in attendance: Fred and Roberta Anderson, Bob Kitchen, Kathy and Rod Lilley, Barry Kendall, Lawrence Cunnings, Jonathan Jenkins, Paul and Sally Gausmann, Paddy Rooney, Allison Michael, Amy Schifrin, Dave Hefner, Phil Kline and Tom Shelley

We reviewed the “summary” of the previous meeting.
Alternative Benevolence report was added to the agenda

John Douglas gave a Churchwide assembly report. He shared some Good Soil information and his reflections on his experience. Sally Gausmann also added some of her thoughts. We discussed the existence of an extraordinary roster, the two hermeneutics that are at work in the ELCA and whether there is still a possibility to bring things back to our confessional and orthodox roots.

Bob Kitchen gave a report on law suits currently being brought against the ELCA and whether the financial implications of those suits will have an effect on the financial health of the church.

A Coalition meeting of Lutheran Core and Word Alone will be held on Sept. 28 in Lindenhurst, IL. Bob Kitchen will attend. Paddy Rooney and Paul Gausmann are also considering attending. Some things that could be discussed include:
How we continue to work within the ELCA, How we can network better, Organizing for 2009

Standards of behavior and enforcement of V&E continues to be complicated by local option and we are not sure at this time how our synod will respond to the latest decision at churchwide.

In terms of upcoming elections Larry Cunnings reminded us of how important is for us to get the word out about the issues and we need to have an avenue for presenting orthodox teaching and let lay folks know what is happening – Larry, Cathy and Paul will talk more about how to organize publicity and information for lay people in our synod.

The next Society of the Holy Trinity retreat will be Dec. 3&4 – their membership continues to grow. They have been dealing with the Marks of the Church.

A White Rose Cluster has been formed in York County. We will meet for Morning Prayer every Tuesday at 9:00 a.m. at St. Peter’s Lutheran, York and for other Saints days at other York parishes. Other cooperative efforts will also hopefully arise such as joint youth work and perhaps a marriage retreat.

Our October event has been cancelled because we were not able to get another speaker arranged.
There is an alternative event on Nov. 11 from 2-5 at St. James in Lebanon. We hope to eventually have a joint event with ELCF.
Nov. 27-28 – Amy speaking at the Bishop’s retreat.

There is a desire among some to have an organized way to respond to those who feel they are conscious bound not to give Benevolence in the traditional way. Barry Kendall has information on this for those who have concerns about this in their congregation.

We would like to explore being a branch of ELCF. That would enable us to benefit from their 501C status. Paul will explore this.

Our next meeting will be Sept. 25, 2007 at 1:30 at Saint Paul, Trinity Road, York.

Respectfully Submitted,


Sally Gausmann

Lutherans Reform!

-Joining with other groups in renewing confessional and Biblical identity in the Lower Susquehanna Synod and across the Church.

-A member of Lutheran CORE

-Becoming a chapter of the Evangelical Lutheran Confessing Fellowship.

-Holding publicly advertised town meetings throughout our area to update people about the situation in the ELCA and
how to promote local confessional renewal.

-Compiling resources, writing papers, and authoring Memorials that promote the renewal of the Church

-Providing a network of theologically safe congregations for Lutherans and others to join.

-Helping orthodox seminarians to feel the support of the confessional pastors and laity as they go through their training.

-Developing a new webpage which will contain updated minutes and other resources.

-Updating confessional Christians on developments in the church through a variety of e-mail listings. To join contact Rev. Paul Gausmann at pwg@saintpaul-trinity.org

Rev. Sara “Sally” Gausmann One of the slogans of the ELCA over the last couple of years has been “unity in the midst of diversity.” This unity has been so important that it even made it into the proposal of the task force presentation in 2005 when we discussed the blessing of same sex unions and the rostering of non-celibate clergy. The resolution was, that the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America—its members, congregations, synods, churchwide organization, and agencies and institutions—be urged to concentrate on finding ways to live together faithfully in the midst of disagreements, recognizing the God-given mission and communion that we share as members of the body of Christ.What is the disagreement that we have that endangers our unity so much that we have to make resolutions promoting living together faithfully? Well, after I attended the 2005 assembly it became clear to me that the disagreement was not just on matters relating to human sexuality but had to do with a different understanding of theology or what I would call a new gospel. After attending the 2007 churchwide assembly I now realize that not only does this new gospel exist, but I have now had confirmed in my mind the realization that because of this new gospel we cannot have a unified church.I say this not to be overly dramatic or divisive; I say it simply because it is the truth. Our Lord himself said that a house divided against itself cannot stand. (Mk 3:25) and Saint Paul likewise condemned the preaching of a new gospel (Galatians 1:9)Now, first of all I need to define this new gospel and how it differs from the gospel of Jesus Christ, as revealed to us in holy scripture and the historic witness of the church catholic. Consider this excerpt from Susan Hogan/Albach’s story in the Chicago Sun-Times: “The nation’s largest Lutheran denomination on Saturday passed a measure calling on church leaders to “refrain from or demonstrate restraint” in disciplining gay clergy in committed relationships. A day earlier, church members meeting at Navy Pier voted down a measure that would have ended the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America’s celibacy requirement for gay clergy. Still, Saturday’s 538-431 decision was widely viewed as historic and a sign of shifting thinking on homosexuality within the 4.8-million member denomination. “It’s a huge victory,” said Jeremy Posadas, a voting church member from Decatur, Ga. “The gospel of inclusion has won, and we’re going to keep winning.””Jeremy Posadas has succinctly identified this new gospel – what he has named “the gospel of inclusion.” Traditionally some of us would refer to this gospel as “cheap grace,” a term coined by Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Others would call this new understanding antinomianism – an aberration of the gospel that Luther had to speak out against when people of his day abrogated the use of the law and celebrated Christian freedom in a way that was not healthy for the church or society. Some of the things that accompany this new gospel are the redefinition of some familiar words. In this new way of thinking love equals acceptance and justice means promoting and affirming whatever each individual has decided is right for him or herself. This new gospel is not without law entirely but instead they have a new law which replaces the Ten Commandments – this law simply stated is that those who do not accept the new way of thinking are the “real sinners.” This new way of thinking when it does recognize God’s explicit commandments at all, has also elevated the second tablet of the law over the first – preaching that we must “love” our neighbor without any counsel about how that relates to our love of God. In this theology the Spirit of God is disconnected from the Word of God, thus claiming that the Spirit is leading us in new directions that are not related to past revelations. Luther also ran into this type of thinking and he labeled those with this rationale “the enthusiasts.”In my training for the ministry I learned that our preaching always involves both law and gospel. The law of course, is not the means by which we can earn our salvation but it certainly is the compass by which we are to live and a tool to learn about holy living. Because of this traditional viewpoint we have continued to teach Luther’s Small Catechism (the Ten Commandments, the Lord’s Prayer and the Apostles’ Creed.) One of the chief messages that Jesus preached was that the Kingdom of God had come near – this gospel message is recorded in Matthew 4: 17 when Jesus says: Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near. This turning around that Jesus calls us to is good news because it reminds us that we don’t have to continue on the path we are on – we are not held captive by our sexual desires or any other proclivity – rather we are made new as we are embraced by this Lord of life who desires for us, new life, life and life abundant.The more speeches that I heard at churchwide assembly the more I was convinced that we were speaking two different languages. A number of years ago Bishop Hanson quoted a seminary professor as saying that we have in our church two “equally valid” but irreconcilable hermeneutics. I quote the “equally valid” because I wonder how that can be true. How can some be preaching this new gospel and others the traditional understanding of the faith and both be right? How long can we hold together this unhappy marriage of opposite theologies? When will we say enough is enough and declare that this new way of thinking is unfaithful to teaching of the one holy, catholic and apostolic church and those of us who want to remain faithful to scripture and traditions can no longer support a church body that wants us to move in this direction?Many do not want to give up the ship so to speak. I have heard many from Lutheran Core and Word Alone and others say we must stay with the ELCA and be the ones who continue to speak out for orthodoxy in the church and in many ways I sympathize with this way of thinking. I do not want to be a part of a runagate sect, however neither do I want to be like a frog in a pot of boiling water that doesn’t know that they should jump before they are cooked alive and eaten. What I saw taking place in Chicago was a tug of war. It seems to me that about 45% of those attending want to remain orthodox, 35% would like to revise our theology and about 20% fluctuate back and forth. The 35% that would like change are smaller in number but they are in control of our seminaries and our youth gatherings and are in many of the leadership positions of the ELCA. And so even though they are smaller they have great influence and when they are patient they can see the tide turning their way and they keep paddling the boat in this new direction. They are often effective in changing the minds not only of the 20% in the middle by playing on the sympathies of many kind hearted souls with personal stories of pain (as if orthodox folk have no pain,) but also by name calling and manipulation they at times even win over some of the 45% who hold the traditional beliefs. I sat at a dinner table while a bishop, a seminary professor and a pastor made fun of those in the ELCA “who don’t have the spirit,” joking that maybe they would spike the drinks of these sour folks. Who wants to be talked about like that? Some of the 45% are also being lost due to what I would call a slow leak – some going to Rome, some to LCMS, some to LCMC and others to whatever is the going church in their town. One lay voting member told me that he thought maybe he would continue to attend his local Lutheran congregation because the orthodox way was still being taught, but he would no longer be a member of that church because he could no longer support the denomination’s teaching of this new way of thinking.Many of us also want to stay because of the children. We have two sets of children in this relationship. We have the real flesh and blood children to whom we would like to pass along the historic faith to – children that we want to have hear both law and gospel – children that we want to teach the catechism to…And then there are the other children that many of us don’t want to give up – Lutheran World Hunger, Lutheran World Relief, Lutheran Services in America, Lutheran Disaster Response, etc. Those programs that our church has adopted or given birth to that help us to live out our Christian witness in the world are important to many of us. We like the good things these organizations do on our behalf and if we are pushed out of the church we would hate to have to give full parental rights to those who are preaching this new gospel.So here I am – at a great crossroads in my life wondering if I should stay in the ELCA and use my voice to perhaps speak to the 20% in the middle, and to encourage the 45% who want to remain faithful. Are there still those I can help to wake up to this important calling we have to stand up for the traditional faith of the church? How important is it that the voice that speaks against these false teachings is a voice within the ELCA? Is there any chance that they will hear a voice from outside any more or less than they hear our incessant call to faithfulness? And where will I go? Will those who want change in the ELCA have the last laugh as orthodox women clergy flounder to find a faithful home that will accept women’s ordination? Perhaps, the best case scenario would be for an African Bishop to adopt those of us who are being abandoned by the ELCA. Again, I don’t want to sound like a victim, but I am also wondering at what point those of us who feel like sandbaggers will come to the realization that the flood waters are just too great and we must run to higher ground before we drown.I am truly thankful to God for the hard work of so many at Lutheran Core, Word Alone and all those people who have not joined an organized group but who continue to pray and work for reform in the ELCA. We are very aware of the challenges that have come to the gospel in the past and we know that in spite of it all, God has remained faithful and still continues to bless us with his Word and sacraments. It is in his name, Father, Son and Holy Spirit that we move forward despite whatever befalls knowing that our Lord will not abandon us and that ultimately he will provide a home for the faithful in this life and a home in eternity for all who confess his holy name. Rev. Sally Gausmann